FROGS

I seem to have fallen into collecting frogs, a bit by default really. If you want to collect frogs, then Anthony Carters book on bayonet frogs is the essential reference, and I have used his references for the frogs shown below (CBF XXX), or given credit to the person who has Identified a frog not to be found in Carter as despite the large number of frogs he has there are many not in the book . Several of these frogs are the less common ones available which I have bought for just that reason.

 

You will notice that I have several replica frogs attributed to Harry Savage, he has a growing site on frogs and can make ones specific to your needs

Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Commercial, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Holland, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Rhodesia, Rumania, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK, Unknown, USA, Yugoslavia

ARGENTINA

As a general rule for ARGENTINE ARMY leathers and webs:

Mauser era leathers (from 1892) were brown (dark or light, curved or straight seam with/without brass/steel rivets were only slight differences according to maker and/or period and/or rank), but all frogs from that period has both right and left seam visible from the front side.

Argentina decided to upgrade equipment in 1955 and changed between 1955-1965 from a Germanized uniform (grey earlier, brown later, always with brown leathers) & Mauser's to an US styled uniform (all green) & FALs, we switched (gradually...) from Mauser to FAL from 1960.

Brown leather colour remained in service until 1965-1970 (also for earlier FAL leathers). 

From 1960-1965 all Mauser frogs were added with straps, some brown ones were modified hiding left seam.

In 1970 almost all leathers were green, for Mauser or FAL, Mauser frogs made after 1970 were green, with strap and hidden left seam (not reformed).

All FAL frogs were made with hilt strap and hidden left seam, also the very earlier brown ones.

On 1979-1981 we started to use green synthetic web, former contractor was German Tempex, made here by MONOCROMO S.A. under Tempex license, on 1984-85 they went on bankruptcy... at the same time other argentine companies started to massive provide inexpensive web equipments to military and police forces

In 1984-1985 all Mauser's and bayonets & leathers were retired of service, as well as all FAL leathers.

 

Thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the identification and information

Machete Frog
CBF xxx Machette frogs
  Argentina
  Argentina, this is missing one of the belt clips
  Argentine Marine, the brass ring is to take the frog stud from the FN FAL type A bayonet and allows the serial number applied to blade and scabbard to be seen whilst still in the frog

thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the identification and information
  This frog is one of the early Mauser frogs for the 1891, it is normally found with steel rivets, it is possible that this brass is either very early or for NCO's 
thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the identification and information
CBF5 Maker stamped ACH for 1891 an 1909 bayonets from period 1955-1960
CBF5? Central section of frog has been cleanly cut out for unknown reason.
  Not sure if the kink is original or due to age
  "For the  Mauser bayonets but with a hilt strap added in the FN Fal style, circa 1970 or later

thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the identification and information
  Frogs 1, 2 and 4 (from the left) are Mauser frogs with hilt strap, Frog 3 is for the FN as can be seen from th ecut out on the upper left front

Thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the photographs and information
 

1891/1909 mauser frogs, for all tastes: old sewing, staright sewing, brass rivet, steel rivet, painted rivet, without rivet, clear or dark brown...

the last frog with brass clamp was recently obtained, possibly from the '30s-40s due to quality, thought to be used by NCOs, officers didn't carry a rifle bayonet on those years. (to be confirmed)

 

Stamps: arg crest and "OC IN 2-0065" = Orden de Compra de Intendencia 2-0065 = Quartermaster Corps -supplies- Purcahse Order 2-0065 (figures meaning unknown, but this frog can be dated 1959-1969).

 

D.G.M.E. (1921-1964) = DIRECCION GENERAL DE MATERIAL DE EJERCITO = Army Equipment General Management.

 

Thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the photographs  and information

  Interesting frog attached directly to the cover of a shovel
Thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the photographs  and information
  This is an FN FAL frog with its hilt strap lost. The cut out on the left side is for the flash guard prongs on the Type A bayonet.
  Replaced strap in unfinished leather 
  Mauser bayonet with strap
CBF 2

two different manufacturers with slightly different shapes and location/style of markings

 

Frog for a Machete

 

Dress(?) frog for the FN FAL, I have an ammo pouch with the same corduroy appearance

Argentine Navy frog for the 1891/1909 Bayonet

thanks to Gustavo Pablo Fierro for the identification and information

 

AUSTRALIA

CBF14

Cut down 84-98 with a less common Australian Frog

7th Light Horse? originally issued frog

Uncommon maker- Commonwealth Government Harness Factory

Additional info courtesy of Ian Mclean of  Australia)

 Australia Blackened web frogs
CBF17

Viet Nam period modification to the 37 pattern webbing, by the addition of belt hooks for American style webbing belts

CBF17mod Seldom seen tan version of the more normal green frog
CBF17mod Blackened version of the normal green frog.

 

AUSTRIA

  Not sure if the kink is original or due to age
  Austria dress frog, maker marked
CBF 29

Frog for the 1895 Manlicher

 

  Various Austro-German frogs, many are modified and you can see removed rivets, profile changes - including cutting through originl rivets.
 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog, ersatz with web backing

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

  Nasty copy isn't big enough to take scabbard, good leather but horrible tooling and scaling, came with one i wanted
  Modified bottom to frog to give frilled edge
 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

BELGIUM

CBF 43 Missing the upper strap shown in Carter, marked D D on front
  1889 Leather frog, these can also be found modified by the Germans during WWII
CBF xxx 1916 modified to fit the HUK No4
CBF xxx Identified by Graham Priest, this is a post war Belgian Airforce web frog
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Just freely available is a web frog for the FN FAL Tubular bayonet, there are several variations to this frog both in colour and style - i have heard of around 30 so far. The  interesting thing is that the hilt strap is loose and moves up and down. This is made by Miles Equipment Company in 1951.

1944 made frog for UK No4

 

BULGARIA

  Ersatz frog made from hessian
CBF xxx  

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The front of the frog has been replaced (period) with late war thin leather face that almost appears to be like paper (style of front is more that of one for an 1895 than an 84/98). Frog is marked as 1940 made 4th INTENDENTURA which translates as something like supply department (thank you Adam Lubas).

CBF xxx Front replaced with thinner face for VZ or 1895 bayonet
  WWII Mannlicher frog
  Comparison of early middle and late war Bulgarian frogs
   Pre or early WWII VZ24 frog, shows thick heavy leather and is substantial in construction 
   Mid WWII  VZ24 frog sees the fog thickness reducing significantly to save materials, quality is still high
   Late WWII  VZ24 frog shows loss in quality over the earlier production and leather thickness is substantially thinner.
  Black leather for AKM
  Brown leather for AKM
  Leather and green webbing for AKM


 

CANADA

 Canada Oliver patter for entrenching tool helve as well as blade
 

Ross Bayonet Frog has brass button to fix it onto the belt

 Canadian Ross frog modified to fit the 1907
CBF 187

1915 pattern only made between 1915 and 1917. This is marked H Carson and Co Ottowa on the hilt strap which is the lead contractor, there are no other makers marks identifiable, only 22 on back and 2 on the front

 

CBF 188

1925 pattern  frog for the RCAF

 

 

original frog for the 1907

 

 

 

 

modified frog for the No4 has an additional line of stitching to tighten the frog on the No4 bayonet

 

1941 date on one of the frogs

 

CBF 488

I believe this is the 1982 pattern frog but with a press stud rather than the normal Velcro fastening for the hilt strap

 

 

Late pattern plastic dress frog for the L1A2 bayonet

CBF 171 1948 produced No4 frog with stitched slit in upper band, made by GEW
CBF 194  
 

Web No4 frog

  Frog for the Eickhorn 2000 bayonet

 

CHILE
  French emergency bayonet frog from FP war was supplied to Chile, am example is shown in the Chilean army museum and is marked as supplied by a French company,



Pictures supplied by Andrés Humberto Sepúlveda Salinas

 

COMMERCIAL
  Not so much a frog as attachment straps to hold the Camillus BK&T bayonet onto equipment harnesses
   

 

CZECHOSLOVAKIA

 German frog on Czech VZ24 converted to German pattern without muzzle ring
 Czech frog that came on an 84/98 German bayonet
CBF 321

Modified VZ bayonet scabbard as used by the Germans, has added "cavalry" strap

 

Czech NBC scabbard/frog combination

 

DENMARK

 M1867 copy by Harry Savage
  Adaptor for M1. White version is Navy
 

Danish adaptor to allow US style hooked bayonets scabbards to fit on UK style web belts

 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for P17
 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for P17
 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for P17
  M1 hanger several slight variations in color and webbing, also rivets
 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for M1

 

FINLAND
 This is a Finnish frog used as a carrier for an axe and its handle, but is the third set of hoops for an 1891?

 

FRANCE

CBF 246 A full harness containing magazine pouches etc. the frog holds a 1892 bayonet across the chest. The bandolier was made for the Spahis French North African Light cavalry recruited from Algeria and Morocco. This is a copy sold by IMA
CBF 222 Lebel 1866
 French Lebel , reproduction by Shaman
CBF 319  Emergency frog made during the Franco Prussian war period 
CBF 242  1892 Berthier  
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Reproduction Chassepot frog made by Harry Savage, (Shaman15 on EBAY) excellent quality reproduction

 

GERMANY

  For the 1895
courtesy of Roy williams and Yannick at AFCB
  German found on an EB40b ersatz bayonet 
  German 84-98 
    German 84/98 
 Fake 98/05
  German WWI frog for the Austrian 1895 
 

1932 dated frog for 84/98

 

Frog has been cut down level with top rivets and the sewn seam opened to allow this to fit on belt, is this period or done to allow a cut off frog to be used?

 

Luftwaffe frog with Flak unit markings.

22nd unit

LBA(S) is luftwaffe marking

  German with KVM makers marking
 

Poor condition frog found on a shortened S98 bayonet

 

German dress frog for the Postal services. Has a metal back plate to protect uniform and is marked DRP - Deutsches Reich Post

 

Frog found on Ersatz 88/98 bayonet

 

Marine(?) marked frog from Norway, shows 1938 Kiel makers mark

 

1940 dated

 

Found on a cut down UK 1907

 

1940 date on Kregsmarine frog

Painted mark on frog is similar to unit marks found on the front of German vehicles of the time (ID please?)

 

1938 Luftwaffe frog in brown leather, makers mark shows a 1938 date

 

German frog found on Austrian WWI ersatz scabbard containing a cut down UK 1907

Luftwaffe (LBA) acceptance mark. Bayonet came from Belgian France border and had been found in this combination. Wear on the scabbard shows frog had been on it for an extended period

CBF 287

German made frog for the 1888 and 1890 Austrian bayonets

CBF 290?.

Patent leather dress frog on shortened S98 dress blade. Rear of frog is suede finish to prevent wear on uniform,

 

CBF307

WWII produced frog for the German 98/05 bayonet, this one is dated 1940

CBF 307

Fake frog

CBF 310

84/98 frog Rare Kreigsmarine stamp

CBF 310

 with the hilt strap cut off

CBF 316

Fake Afika Korps frog
 Copy of web Frog 
CBF 321

Czech VZ24 frog modified by the addition of the cavalry strap for use by the Germans

CBF 563

German ally  "bread bag" frog made from leather face sewn onto a canvas back. There are apparently two version of this with fine and coarse cloth, this is the fine cloth version.

There has been a lot of discussion from a German frog collector (Stefan) regarding this frog and its identification as German made. Carters book does imply that that the Identification is open to discussion. The round hole is atypical of German blades but typical of many Eastern European made frogs. There is no photographic evidence of their use by German troops and they are most often found on VZ24 or commercial 84/98's, although at least one is reported as coming on an army blade picked up in Normandy.

I am therefore identifying this a a frog used by a German Ally in WWII, probably Eastern European, until further clarification of its origin is forthcoming.

CBF 318Late WWII "skeleton" frog
CBF 318
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
CBF308 Brown would indicate Luftwaffe issue but there are no markings to prove this. Makers mark indicates 1938 made example
 A modified sword hanger used to carry a shortened Gras bayonet, complete with regimental marks. There are reported to be a least two more similar frogs in another collection
   Breadbag frog with orange thread
Courtesy of Les
 Austrian frog converted by addition of hilt strap
Courtesy of Les
 Modified Czech frog
Courtesy of Les
 Frog wiht makers mark on front of frog, instead of the more normal rear face
Courtesy of Les
 Crude addition of hilt strap
Courtesy of Les
 Luftwaffe marked frog
Courtesy of Les
 Frog marked to Flak unit
Courtesy of Les
 Brown frog blackened on front face only marked G Schaule
Courtesy of Les
 DAK frog
Courtesy of Les
 Green Web Frog
Courtesy of Les
 Luftwaffe web frog in blue
courtesy of Les
 Web frog with mixed colors
courtesy of Les
   Comparison of the varitions in web frog colors 
courtesy of Les
 Removed  hilt strap
courtesy of Les
 So called "Radiator Hose" frogs made from a rubberised fabric
courtesy of Les
   Often referred to as a "Skeleton" frog 
courtesy of Les
   SS marked frog 
courtesy of Les
    
    
    
    
    
    
   Italian 1891 frog with front replaced with mauser front section 
courtesy of Les
   Luftwaffe fighter squadron marked
courtesy of Les 
   Wilhelm Mansen \&Braun
Solingen
1938
courtesy of Les 
 R Ehrhardt
Poessheck
1937 
courtesy of Les
 TIWO
Heidelberg
1942
courtesy of Les 
 RFN Number marked
courtesy of Les
 RBN Number marked
courtesy of Les
 KM stamp
courtesy of Les
 xxxx Schull
Hamburg 15
1935 
courtesy of Les
 Roesch
Rohreach
1940 
courtesy of Les
 Mauser
1943
courtesy of Les
 E Halling
1938
courtesy of Les
 Lagesa
Dresden
1938
courtesy of Les
 jfg 1943
courtesy of Les
 JueVal
Adam
1942
courtesy of Les
 A Hellmuth
Berlin
1940
courtesy of Les
 A Hellmuth
Berlin
1935
courtesy of Les
 Gustav Frodech
courtesy of Les
 Gebr Graf 1940
Courtesy of Les
 Furhuringen
Courtesy of Les
 FSL marked
courtesy of Les
 1937 CH Sodel made frog
Courtesy of Les
 Hegemann Mettwig 1935
courtesy of Les
  

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