FROGS

I seem to have fallen into collecting frogs, a bit by default really. If you want to collect frogs, then Anthony Carters book on bayonet frogs is the essential reference, and I have used his references for the frogs shown below (CBF XXX), or given credit to the person who has Identified a frog not to be found in Carter as despite the large number of frogs he has there are many not in the book . Several of these frogs are the less common ones available which I have bought for just that reason.

 

You will notice that I have several replica frogs attributed to Harry Savage, he has a growing site on frogs and can make ones specific to your needs

Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Holland, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Rhodesia, Rumania, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK, Unknown, Yugoslavia

ARGENTINA

  Cavalry
  
CBF 2

two different manufacturers with slightly different shapes and location/style of markings

 

Frog for a Machete

 

Dress(?) frog for the FN FAL, I have an ammo pouch with the same corduroy appearance

 

AUSTRALIA

CBF14

Cut down 84-98 with a less common Australian Frog

7th Light Horse? originally issued frog

Uncommon maker- Commonwealth Government Harness Factory

Additional info courtesy of Ian Mclean of  Australia)

 Australia Blackened web frogs
CBF17

Viet Nam period modification to the 37 pattern webbing, by the addition of belt hooks for American style webbing belts

 

AUSTRIA

CBF 29

Frog for the 1895 Manlicher

 

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog, ersatz with web backing

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

Austrian or German Mannlicher frog

 

BELGIUM

  Belgian 1889
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Just freely available is a web frog for the FN FAL Tubular bayonet, there are several variations to this frog both in colour and style - i have heard of around 30 so far. The  interesting thing is that the hilt strap is loose and moves up and down. This is made by Miles Equipment Company in 1951.

  1889 Leather frog, these can also be found modified by the Germans during WWII

 

BULGARIA

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The front of the frog has been replaced (period) with late war thin leather face that almost appears to be like paper (style of front is more that of one for an 1895 than an 84/98). Frog is marked as 1940 made 4th INTENDENTURA which translates as something like supply department (thank you Adam Lubas).

 

CANADA

 Canada Oliver patter for entrenching tool helve as well as blade
 

Ross Bayonet Frog has brass button to fix it onto the belt

 Canadian Ross frog modified to fit the 1907
CBF 187

1915 pattern only made between 1915 and 1917. This is marked H Carson and Co Ottowa on the hilt strap which is the lead contractor, there are no other makers marks identifiable, only 22 on back and 2 on the front

 

CBF 188

1925 pattern  frog for the RCAF

 

 

original frog for the 1907

 

 

 

 

modified frog for the No4 has an additional line of stitching to tighten the frog on the No4 bayonet

 

1941 date on one of the frogs

 

CBF 488

I believe this is the 1982 pattern frog but with a press stud rather than the normal Velcro fastening for the hilt strap

 

 

Late pattern plastic dress frog for the L1A2 bayonet

 

Web No4 frog

 

CZECHOSLOVAKIA

 German frog on Czech VZ24 converted to German pattern without muzzle ring
 Czech frog that came on an 84/98 German bayonet
CBF 321

Modified VZ bayonet scabbard as used by the Germans, has added "cavalry" strap

 

Czech NBC scabbard/frog combination

 

DENMARK

 M1867 copy by Harry Savage
 

Danish adaptor to allow US style hooked bayonets scabbards to fit on UK style web belts

 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for P17
 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for P17
 Converter to allow US style scabbards to fit Danish belts for M1

 

FINLAND
 This is a Finnish frog used as a carrier for an axe and its handle, but is the third set of hoops for an 1891?

 

FRANCE

 French Lebel , reproduction by Shaman
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Reproduction Chassepot frog made by Harry Savage, (Shaman15 on EBAY) excellent quality reproduction

 

GERMANY

  German found on an EB40b ersatz bayonet 
  German 84-98 
    German 84/98 
 Fake 98/05
  German WWI frog for the Austrian 1895 
 

1932 dated frog for 84/98

 

Frog has been cut down level with top rivets and the sewn seam opened to allow this to fit on belt, is this period or done to allow a cut off frog to be used?

 

Luftwaffe frog with Flak unit markings.

22nd unit

LBA(S) is luftwaffe marking

  German with KVM makers marking
 

Poor condition frog found on a shortened S98 bayonet

 

German dress frog for the Postal services. Has a metal back plate to protect uniform and is marked DRP - Deutsches Reich Post

 

Frog found on Ersatz 88/98 bayonet

 

Marine(?) marked frog from Norway, shows 1938 Kiel makers mark

 

1940 dated

 

Found on a cut down UK 1907

 

1940 date on Kregsmarine frog

Painted mark on frog is similar to unit marks found on the front of German vehicles of the time (ID please?)

 

1938 Luftwaffe frog in brown leather, makers mark shows a 1938 date

 

German frog found on Austrian WWI ersatz scabbard containing a cut down UK 1907

Luftwaffe (LBA) acceptance mark. Bayonet came from Belgian France border and had been found in this combination. Wear on the scabbard shows frog had been on it for an extended period

CBF 287

German made frog for the 1888 and 1890 Austrian bayonets

CBF 290?.

Patent leather dress frog on shortened S98 dress blade. Rear of frog is suede finish to prevent wear on uniform,

 

CBF307

WWII produced frog for the German 98/05 bayonet, this one is dated 1940

CBF 307

Fake frog

CBF 310

84/98 frog Rare Kreigsmarine stamp

CBF 310

 with the hilt strap cut off

CBF 316

Fake Afika Korps frog
 Copy of web Frog 
CBF 321

Czech VZ24 frog modified by the addition of the cavalry strap for use by the Germans

CBF 563

German ally  "bread bag" frog made from leather face sewn onto a canvas back. There are apparently two version of this with fine and coarse cloth, this is the fine cloth version.

There has been a lot of discussion from a German frog collector (Stefan) regarding this frog and its identification as German made. Carters book does imply that that the Identification is open to discussion. The round hole is atypical of German blades but typical of many Eastern European made frogs. There is no photographic evidence of their use by German troops and they are most often found on VZ24 or commercial 84/98's, although at least one is reported as coming on an army blade picked up in Normandy.

I am therefore identifying this a a frog used by a German Ally in WWII, probably Eastern European, until further clarification of its origin is forthcoming.

CBF 318Late WWII "skeleton" frog
CBF 318
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures
 A modified sword hanger used to carry a shortened Gras bayonet, complete with regimental marks. There are reported to be a least two more similar frogs in another collection

 

GHANA

CBF 179

Police frog for the 1907  

 

GREECE

 

UK1907 frog

 UK1907 this one stamped with makers mark, similar to above but without hilt strap
 Greek UK No4 frog

 

HOLLAND

CBF 364

1895 Mannlicher frog, permanently attached to scabbard

 

 

 

HUNGARY

 Hungary for 1895 Gendarmarie
 

Heavily modified 1895 frog, could this be a cavalry conversion to allow it to hang on a horses harness?

 

INDIA

CBF 162

 

 India Police issue frog for 1907

 

INDONESIA

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Integral frog on Indonesian ex Dutch 1895 

 

IRAN

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Web frog for the G3

 

IRELAND

UVF frog for the 1904 bayonet

 More UVF frogs courtesy of Michael Curran, these were freely available in the shops and were made for a variety of blades, seen her the UK1888, Th Romanian 1904, and the French Gras

 

ISRAEL

 

For the 1949 pattern bayonets

 

ITALY

CBF 334M1870-71 copy by Harry Savage
 

Frog for 1871
(thanks to Harry Savage for identification)

CBF 335

 

CBF 337

 

 two variations of 91 Carcano frogs
CBF 339Combination frog for the 1891, second hole is to carry an ax and the strap is to hold the head down
thanks to Verbruggen Luc for picture
 

Original frog for TS bayonet

 

JAPAN

 Frog typically found on the T1 paratrooper bayonet. I have not yet got a translation of the characters on the tag.
The tag is apparently the end of the soldiers toothbrush, which has been cut off and attached to the frog, this is apparently not uncommon (thanks to various BCN members for this information
 

Late pattern T30 Arisaka with rubber scabbard

 

 

Scabbard has integral frog

CBF 359

Leather frog for the Arisaka

 

 

LITHUANIA
  Lithuanian for the AKM bayonets, there are two different models a leather and a web and they attach to the gear differently, is one dress and one service?

 

NEW ZEALAND

CBF 197New Zealand frog for the 1903/1907 but in this case on an 1888 
CBF 1971903 -1907  another of Shamans excellent reproductions compare with real one above
 

Badge is UK unit

 

Dress frog

 

NORWAY

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CBF 376 Very distinctive frog for the Norwegian 1894 Krag bayonet. this has a catch on the loop to fix it to the metal scabbard and a unit mark on the rear face made using a series of pin holes

 

POLAND

 thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures

 

AK47 bayonet frog, often the scabbards come without the leather frog.

Leather Frog obverse

 

Leather frog front

 

PORTUGAL

 

Militia (legion Portuguese a pre WWII fascist militia) marked frog for the 84/98 contract bayonets

CBF 382

 

Unknown "frog" found on a 1904 bayonet, container must be for some form of tool, possibly part of a horses harness????

 Portugal, combined frog and entrenching tool carrier 

 

Frog for the SMG bayonet, allows it to sit slanted for drivers etc.

 

RHODESIA

 

Webb frog for the FN FAL bayonet permanently fixed to scabbard

 

RUMANIA

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Frogs for the VZ24, one is unmarked the other shows a 1953 date stamp which is very late

thanks to christi for the identification from the makers mark

 

SOUTH AFRICA

 South African buff frog
 South Africa web frog for UZI
 

South African quilted frog

 

SOUTH KOREA

 

Web frog with wire clip to fit US pattern webbing Clip fixed to original scabbard

 

reverse of frog

 

SPAIN

 

Thought to be a dress pattern frog for the Spanish 1893 short

 

SWEDEN

 

NCO frog for the 1896 Mauser, in unissued condition

CBF 400

 M1914 Sawback
 

CBF405 Swedish frog for the M1914 bayonet this one has had the diagonal strap removed and is painted white for dress/ceremonial duties

 

1914 modified

 

M1914 scabbard modified by removing the original diagonal strap and adding a vertical one. This variation is not shown in Carter, although there are many variations to the conversions

 

Another M1914 conversion, this is probably for the 1896 as the strap is lower than the above

 

SWITZERLAND

 

1957

 

For the M1970 bayonet in rubberised fabric

 

TURKEY

 copy by Harry Savage
 

1918 pattern ersatz frog, uses multiple layers of thin leather rather than one piece of heavier.

 

Frog used on 35 pattern bayonets, most seen have been in heavily repaired condition with a wide range of sewing or riveting.

 Turkey No4 frog converted by a second row of stitching form a Mauser pattern frog 
 Turkish Mauser modified for Lebel, or is it just another No4 one?

 

UK

 UK Web frog
 This home guard frog is unusual in having a WD stamp on the back
CBF 96

Naval frog for the 1888

CBF 90

1907 frog

 

Fairly sure this is a fake made from old leather, partially on the manufacture and partly on the price paid (i.e. cheap)

CBF 120

Naval issued P08, Web is marked with N and so is the brass tag on the helve strap. This one was used by a film prop company.

It is not possible to distinguish the stamped on date

 UK 1922 made 
CBF 127

Sandhurst frog

 

CBF 128

Sandhurst frog made in 1941

 

CBF 152

RAF frog without the belt snap stud, colour is a pale blue grey

 

CBF 154

Frog for No4 bayonet in green

 

 

Frog for No4 bayonet in white dress blanco

CBF 154

CBF 154

Frog for No4 bayonet in Khaki

 

CBF 164

Home guard frog for the P14/P17 bayonet supplied on lend lease during early part of WWII, allowed US pattern scabbard to be use don UK webbing

 

CBF 164, variation not in book

Interesting conversion of a WWII Home guard frog with top strap modified to take a buckle

 

Close up of modifications

 

CBF 165

Press stud variation of VP scabbard, the frog was attached by press studs rather than permanently   attached. unfortunately in this case the strap is missing leaving only the body and the press studs

 

CBF 166

Reproduction for movie use of the airborne No4 frog with the added pouch used to store the keeper plate for the sten which was used to seal the hole when the detachable stock was removed.

 

CBF 167

 

 

No 9 frog heavily blancoed dress frog. Is TOPP 840 the troopers name and number?

 

Unknown "scabbard" a 1907 fits in the web, and I was told it was a scabbard made for tropical use, but the single row of stitches makes me suspicious, although I have been sent pictures of a short 1907 in a similar but shorter web scabbard, again any ideas are welcome

CBF 168

Dress frog on L1A1made in 1966

 

 

Dress cover for the SA80 bayonet

 

Green nylon cover for the SA80, there are several "commercial" frogs/scabbards for the SA80 despite there not being commercial sales of the type, as the British forces is the only force lumbered with this weapon

  Supplied as for the 1888 pattern bayonet I think this is more likely a tool holder, would welcome identification
     

 

 

UNKNOWN

    unknown with side strap 
  
  
 Frog that came with an 84/98 fitted with a Lebel Handle is apparently an Italian made one (signs of where the conversion was done maybe?)
  

 

YUGOSLAVIA

CBF 423Often sold on line as German these are actually Yugoslavian, The German skeleton frog has its strap further up the frog and uses straight rows of stitches with rivets. See CBF318.There are variations on the theme with different lengths

 

 

 

Swedish, unmodified 
German with Aluminium rivets 
 Germany Brown leather