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As a general rule for ARGENTINE ARMY leathers and
webs:
Mauser era leathers (from 1892) were brown (dark or
light, curved or straight seam with/without brass/steel rivets were only
slight differences according to maker and/or period and/or rank), but
all frogs from that period has both right and left seam visible from the
front side.
Argentina decided to upgrade equipment in 1955 and
changed between 1955-1965 from a Germanized uniform (grey earlier, brown
later, always with brown leathers) & Mauser's to an US styled uniform
(all green) & FALs, we switched (gradually...) from Mauser to FAL from
1960.
Brown leather colour remained in service until
1965-1970 (also for earlier FAL leathers).
From 1960-1965 all Mauser frogs were added with
straps, some brown ones were modified hiding left seam.
In 1970 almost all leathers were green, for Mauser
or FAL, Mauser frogs made after 1970 were green, with strap and hidden
left seam (not reformed).
All FAL frogs were made with hilt strap and hidden
left seam, also the very earlier brown ones.
On 1979-1981 we started to use green synthetic web,
former contractor was German Tempex, made here by MONOCROMO S.A. under
Tempex license, on 1984-85 they went on bankruptcy... at the same time
other argentine companies started to massive provide inexpensive web
equipments to military and police forces
In 1984-1985 all Mauser's and bayonets & leathers
were retired of service, as well as all FAL leathers.
Thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the identification and information
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Machete Frog |
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Machette frogs
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Argentina |
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Argentina, this is missing one of the belt clips |
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Argentine Marine, the brass ring is to take the frog stud from the FN
FAL type A bayonet and allows the serial number applied to blade and
scabbard to be seen whilst still in the frog
thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the identification and information |
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This frog is one of the early Mauser frogs for the 1891, it is normally
found with steel rivets, it is possible that this brass is either very
early or for NCO's
thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the identification and information |
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CBF5 |
Maker stamped ACH for 1891 an 1909 bayonets from period 1955-1960 |
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CBF5? |
Central section of frog has been cleanly cut out for unknown reason. |
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Not sure if the kink is original or due to age |
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"For the Mauser bayonets but with a hilt strap added in the FN Fal
style, circa 1970 or later
thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the identification and information
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Frogs 1, 2 and 4 (from the left) are Mauser frogs with hilt strap, Frog
3 is for the FN as can be seen from th ecut out on the upper left front
Thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the photographs and information |
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1891/1909 mauser frogs, for all tastes: old sewing, staright sewing,
brass rivet, steel rivet, painted rivet, without rivet, clear or dark
brown...
the last frog with brass clamp was recently obtained, possibly from the
'30s-40s due to quality, thought to be used by NCOs, officers didn't
carry a rifle bayonet on those years. (to be confirmed)
Stamps: arg crest and "OC IN 2-0065" = Orden de Compra de Intendencia
2-0065 = Quartermaster Corps -supplies- Purcahse Order 2-0065 (figures
meaning unknown, but this frog can be dated 1959-1969).
D.G.M.E. (1921-1964) = DIRECCION GENERAL DE MATERIAL DE EJERCITO = Army
Equipment General Management.
Thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the photographs and information
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Interesting frog attached directly to the cover of a shovel
Thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the photographs and information
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This is an FN FAL frog with its hilt strap lost. The cut out on the left
side is for the flash guard prongs on the Type A bayonet. |
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Mauser bayonet with strap |
     | CBF 2 | two different manufacturers with slightly different shapes and location/style of markings |
  | | Frog for a Machete |
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Dress(?) frog for the FN FAL, I have an ammo pouch with the same corduroy
appearance Argentine Navy frog for
the 1891/1909 Bayonet
thanks to
Gustavo Pablo
Fierro for the identification and information |
GERMANY |
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For the 1895
courtesy of Roy williams and Yannick
at AFCB |
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German found on an EB40b ersatz bayonet |
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German 84-98 |
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German 84/98 |
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  | | German WWI frog for the Austrian 1895 |
   | | 1932 dated frog for 84/98 |
   | | Frog has been cut down level with top rivets and the sewn seam opened to allow this to fit on belt, is this period or done to allow a cut off frog to be used? |
    | | Luftwaffe frog with Flak unit markings. 22nd unit LBA(S) is luftwaffe marking |
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German with KVM makers marking |
  | | Poor condition frog found on a shortened S98 bayonet |
   | | German dress frog for the Postal services. Has a metal back plate to protect uniform and is marked DRP - Deutsches Reich Post |
 | | Frog found on Ersatz 88/98 bayonet |
   | | Marine(?) marked frog from Norway, shows 1938 Kiel makers mark |
  | | 1940 dated |
  | | Found on a cut down UK 1907 |
 
| | 1940 date on Kregsmarine frog Painted mark on frog is similar to unit marks found on the front of German vehicles of the time (ID please?) |
  | | 1938 Luftwaffe frog in brown leather, makers mark shows a 1938 date |
  | | German frog found on Austrian WWI ersatz scabbard containing a cut down UK 1907 Luftwaffe (LBA) acceptance mark. Bayonet came from Belgian France border and had been found in this combination. Wear on the scabbard shows frog had been on it for an extended period |
  | CBF 287 | German made frog for the 1888 and 1890 Austrian bayonets |
  | CBF 290?. | Patent leather dress frog on shortened S98 dress blade. Rear of frog is suede finish to prevent wear on uniform, |
 | CBF307 | WWII produced frog for the German 98/05 bayonet, this one is dated 1940 |
  | CBF 307 | Fake frog |
 
| CBF 310 | 84/98 frog Rare Kreigsmarine stamp |
   | CBF 310 | with the hilt strap cut off |
   | CBF 316 | Fake Afika Korps frog |
  | | Copy of web Frog |
 | CBF 321 | Czech VZ24 frog modified by the addition of the cavalry strap for use by the Germans |
   | CBF 563 | German ally "bread bag" frog made from leather face sewn onto a canvas back. There are apparently two version of this with fine and coarse cloth, this is the fine cloth version. There has been a lot of discussion from a German frog collector (Stefan) regarding this frog and its identification as German made. Carters book does imply that that the Identification is open to discussion. The round hole is atypical of German blades but typical of many Eastern European made frogs. There is no photographic evidence of their use by German troops and they are most often found on VZ24 or commercial 84/98's, although at least one is reported as coming on an army blade picked up in Normandy. I am therefore identifying this a a frog used by a German Ally in WWII, probably Eastern European, until further clarification of its origin is forthcoming. |
  | CBF 318 | Late WWII "skeleton" frog |
   | CBF 318 |
thanks to Andrew Adams for pictures |
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CBF308 |
Brown would indicate Luftwaffe issue but there are no markings to prove
this. Makers mark indicates 1938 made example |
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| A modified sword hanger used to
carry a shortened Gras bayonet, complete with regimental marks. There are
reported to be a least two more similar frogs in another collection |
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| Breadbag frog with orange
thread
Courtesy of Les |
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| Austrian frog converted by
addition of hilt strap
Courtesy of Les |
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| Modified Czech frog
Courtesy of Les |
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| Frog wiht makers mark on
front of frog, instead of the more normal rear face
Courtesy of Les |
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| Crude addition of hilt strap
Courtesy of Les |
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| Luftwaffe marked frog
Courtesy of Les |
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| Frog marked to Flak unit
Courtesy of Les |
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| Brown frog blackened on front
face only marked G Schaule
Courtesy of Les |
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| DAK frog
Courtesy of Les |
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| Green Web Frog
Courtesy of Les |
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| Luftwaffe web frog in blue
courtesy of Les
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| Web frog with mixed colors
courtesy of Les |
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| Comparison of the varitions
in web frog colors
courtesy of Les |
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| Removed hilt strap
courtesy of Les |
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| So called "Radiator Hose"
frogs made from a rubberised fabric
courtesy of Les |
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| Often referred to as a
"Skeleton" frog
courtesy of Les |
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| SS marked frog
courtesy of Les |
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| Italian 1891 frog with front
replaced with mauser front section
courtesy of Les |
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| Luftwaffe fighter squadron
marked
courtesy of Les |
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| Wilhelm Mansen \&Braun
Solingen
1938
courtesy of Les |
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| R Ehrhardt
Poessheck
1937
courtesy of Les |
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| TIWO
Heidelberg
1942
courtesy of Les |
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| RFN Number marked
courtesy of Les |
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| RBN Number marked
courtesy of Les |
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| KM stamp
courtesy of Les |
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| xxxx Schull
Hamburg 15
1935
courtesy of Les |
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| Roesch
Rohreach
1940
courtesy of Les |
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| Mauser
1943
courtesy of Les |
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| E Halling
1938
courtesy of Les |
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| Lagesa
Dresden
1938
courtesy of Les |
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| jfg 1943
courtesy of Les |
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| JueVal
Adam
1942
courtesy of Les |
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| A Hellmuth
Berlin
1940
courtesy of Les |
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| A Hellmuth
Berlin
1935
courtesy of Les |
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| Gustav Frodech
courtesy of Les |
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| Gebr Graf 1940
Courtesy of Les |
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| Furhuringen
Courtesy of Les |
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| FSL marked
courtesy of Les |
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| 1937 CH Sodel made frog
Courtesy of Les |
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| Hegemann Mettwig 1935
courtesy of Les |
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